Details: | Shop.com and Joe Bolyard are the biggest scam in history. First of all, he placed an order under a FAKE NAME. He is in the commerce business so he knows how to misuse the system. Joe had a case of buyer's remorse after I shipped a MADE TO ORDER item that cost $500 to ship. It arrived within a few weeks which led to a two month ordeal, Joe lied to the delivery company and said 1 No one has ever called me to deliver this, 2 - this is the first I've heard! 3 I didn't order this, 4- on an airplane and can't talk, , 5- maybe I ordered it but I cancelled it Obviously none of this is true. Then he put his wife Karen Finnie Bolyard on the job who told me "JOE HAS A TEAM OF LAWYERS AT HIS DISPENSE WHO WILL DEAL WITH YOU." Shipping company has been trying to deliver the furniture for 8 weeks, all the while I am accruing warehouse fees. In the end, Joe and his wife Karen indeed stuck me with everything, all the fees etc after they opened a FRAUDULENT case on their credit card. After much research, I saw that Joe's company is involved in a federal racketeering case, no big surprise there. And his shop.com gets bbb companies all the time. Joe should know better because his BUSINESS is an ONLINE BUSINESS. But maybe this is how he knows how to work the system. These people are TRICKY. DO NOT TRUST THEM. |
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Anytime you get any type of purchase, especially with credit cards, get the buyers to sign some sort of sales order confirmation, that has all their information on it. With credit card company's kissing buyers asses like this piece of shit, you need to protect yourself. Assholes like this piece of shit abuse the shit out of credit card system and the banks allow it. He's got lawyers that is prob. making sure this losers ass goes right to jail. Whenever you get large orders, do the back ground jack on them. If the card is in someone's name, then do not accept any other information other than that of the cardholder. Check the ip address, the city state zip etc. before you do anything. Get an electronic form signed especially when dealing with assholes like this moron.
Posted over 5 years ago by 172.69.X.X Report as SPAM
what you also need to do is put this crap up on ripoff report and every other review site there is. These assholes's whole business comes from advertising on the internet and you need to make these assholes pay for it!
Posted over 5 years ago by 162.158.X.X Report as SPAM
Thank you for your advice!
Posted over 5 years ago by 162.158.X.X Report as SPAM
Anything that is of high ticket value especially $500 to ship you need to place insurance on it. You get a call from some total stranger with a high ticket item. One you dont know this person from a whole in the wall, two when it comes to business you trust no one, everyone is out to get you is the mentality you have follow. So that means protecting yourself against anyone and everyone. His lawyers is not going to save his ass if he is using a fake name. That's fraud.
Posted over 5 years ago by 172.68.X.X Report as SPAM
And if you have the sales order with the fake name on it and you ran his credit card with that fake name, you have proof that they lawyers can wipe their asses. Second that asshole is a total liar because you cannot receive cell phone calls on an airplane, its an FAA regulation, private or commerical (he a complete bullshit artist - you got him on the phone and like a crook is trying to avoid you).
In a fraud / no card authorization, you basically take the shipment information (address, ip, phone number, email address) and link it directly to the buyer.
Posted over 5 years ago by 172.68.X.X Report as SPAM
Then you do things like do a background check like on MyLIfe.com and link every single piece of information he placed on the sales order to the background report. Look up any email address, even use facebook.com (because thats what facebook is a big database). Start googling every single piece of sales information and look for 3rd party matches. The wife is another cunt, yeah he's got lawyers, trying to get him off on the other fraud he's committed. The fact that is getting his ass sued and sent to court on something else establishes his character (scamming everyone).
Since the asshole is a crook. the best thing you can do is submit all the paperwork to the credit card company, but dont tell them that the item was delivered or anything, see what happens.
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If the asshole has the item and there's no proof of delivery showing that he signed for it and no one else, then you'll lose the case, because credit card company's like Chase will fuck you over and use whatever bullshit excuses they can to win the case for that crook. There's the civil law suit where you can sue for damages and there's the criminal side. Which you can take him to court on both. But in high ticket items, you need to insure the shipment, get restricted signed proof of delivery, a signed copy of the invoice which clearly states your policies, especially cancellation policies and terms of sale. And the shipment time frame. And state exactly what the item is, how long is going to ship, the return policy etc.
Posted over 5 years ago by 172.68.X.X Report as SPAM
If the asshole pulls any of his shit, you'll have a signed contract that regardless of what that asshole says, he'll loose every single time. Try to get the asshole do screw up in writing so you can use it against him. But you need to do what we said above on the invoice, getting the signature of the buyer, and placing what your terms, cancellation policies, terms of service are, and policies. If its a high ticket item, record serial numbers, place marking on the item, such as with an invisible pen, so you know where it is, so they cant make up any bullshit excuses for not as described, and take pictures of the product. And if its really high value, ask for secondary ID's and call his credit card company telling him what he has purchased.
Posted over 5 years ago by 172.68.X.X Report as SPAM
But most importantly, any high ticket purchase do a background check like with mylife.com based on the sales information. You could of saved yourself alot of headaches and bullshit when you researched the information and saw it was a ficticious name he used. And you should of stated that to his credit card company. because it proves he was trying to rip you off. But you should of dont the research and the second you found a fake name, cancel the order and cut your losses. you were to trust worthly and saw $$$ signs and got caught in this asshole's bullshit.
Posted over 5 years ago by 172.68.X.X Report as SPAM
Agreed to everything you said. I was gullible in thinking that possibly he went by a different name. stupid of me. The problem is there is not much recourse as a seller once a buyer starts lying to their credit card company. On the flip side, Ebay and PayPal have always stood by my side. :)
Posted over 5 years ago by 172.69.X.X Report as SPAM
I looked into this. His company, Market America, basically operates a pyramid scheme preying on Chinese immigrants unfamiliar with US laws. This allows them to run the scam longer before the victims catch on. I can't think of a scummier thing to do than take advantage of people coming to American for a new life and spoiling their hopes and dreams. I've read the legal complaint against Market America, and while I don't have much faith in the plaintiff's lawyers (the complaint itself is kind of rambling), I wish them the best in their suit. Hopefully justice can restore their faith in the United States.
Posted over 5 years ago by 162.158.X.X Report as SPAM
* "coming to America," not American.
Posted over 5 years ago by 162.158.X.X Report as SPAM
Yep! I was shocked to find that out as well. But it helped me to figure out with whom I was dealing and not blame myself. :)
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