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Bad Buyer: erica.roberts46@yahoo.com

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Purchase date:February 2015
Buyer's name:Erica Roberts
Buyer's username:n/a
E-mail:erica.roberts46@yahoo.com
Phone number:8104491371
Buyer's address7061 BRITTWOOD LN FLINT MICHIGAN 48507
Store:other
Buyer's country:United States
Payment method:PayPal
Category:Health & Beauty
Details:

Erica Roberts filed, against our T&C she agreed with, a payment dispute for an expensive item that she was told- with proof - was delayed for six weeks by USPS in the infamous USPS breakdown of January-February-March 2015. She ignored our plea to wait and violated our T&C and filed a payment dispute for the merchandise, sent tracked RR355808078CZ.

If she signes for delivery, she will be guilty of mail fraud, and charges will be filed.

Buyer's IP address:66.249.83.216
Reported at:
Reporter:82.113.X.X
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Erica Roberts now filed a fraudulent claim with PayPal, lying that we said the can get a $199 refund because "it took so long". If she wins her claim, she will be able to pick up the shipment waiting for her and she will be ghuilty of mail fraud, which we will report with the US Postal Inspection Service.


Posted over 9 years ago by 82.113.X.X Report as SPAM

And you know what will happen, your ass is going to get sued or even yet get investigated by the Attorney Generals Office. Its obvious you know nothing about selling. So here's a crash course!

(1) you chose the courier and its your responsibility, not no one elses to make sure that item gets to the buyer. (2) if something happens as a result of your decisions, its your responsibility and your fault (3) 3 months and over 6 weeks for delivery, well you violated the mail order statures that govern retail trade (4) after 4-6 weeks, you have to notify the buyer in writing that the item is not available, you have to offer her a refund or back out of the transaction. (5) its her legally right to file a dispute for any reason she might have - the fact that she didnt receive the item and it was delayed because of you and whomever you used - she has the proof she need to validate non receipt of merchandise. (6) your terms and conditions dont mean jack shit! The delay was your fault and if she doesnt want to take delivery then she doesnt have to.

WHAT ARE YOU STUPID! - THE ANSWER IS YES! The fact the item was never picked up by the buyer. >>>> May 12, 2015 , 8:16 am
Unclaimed . <<<<< She didnt take delivery of the item and its still floating around. YOU HAVE NO CASE. YOU FILED THIS BS DISPUTE ONLINE AND THERE"S NO PROOF OF DELIVERY. She didnt want the item after waiting that long, thats her right!
FLINT, MI 48507


Posted over 9 years ago by 47.17.X.X Report as SPAM

For making further threats, we decided to feature Erica Roberts on every page of our website (in the left margin, below) as an example of how we deal with fraud, as per our T&C Mrs. Roberts agreed to.

We warned Mrs. Roberts before she paid for her purchase that USPS often has severe delays, processing mail from Europe which they will blame on the sending country. Mrs. Roberts agreed to wait at least three months, in case we could prove without reasonable doubt that USPS was to blame for a severe delay. Mrs. Roberts also agreed that if she were to file a chargeback or a dispute or threaten with a complaint to a 3rd party, that we had her permission to expose her as a scammer.


Posted over 9 years ago by 82.113.X.X Report as SPAM

We have no record of a returned shipment from Mrs. Roberts. In case of these severe USPS delays with itl. incoming mail, the tracking status is rarely updated so when the customer receives the package this is not reflected in the tracking status. In case a package disappears in transit then we of course refund but Mrs. Roberts did not want to wait and made a fraudulent claim to PayPal instead.


Posted over 9 years ago by 82.113.X.X Report as SPAM

Start selling quality products and learn how to ship in a timely manner. Your 'business' is worthless if you can't perform the basic tasks of a business. Which you obviously have never been able to do.


Posted over 6 years ago by 172.68.X.X Report as SPAM

This 'company' seriously threatens customers. It's the saddest thing I've ever seen. The fact that they have a wall of shame where every supposed fraudster has THE EXACT SAME COMPLAINT about your trash company, that you don't know how to ship your low quality goods in a timely manner, should tell any potential customer all they need to know.


Posted over 6 years ago by 172.68.X.X Report as SPAM

Our products are the highest quality in the business and are top quality. You can't give a specific example because you're just trying to smear us, as you threatened you would do. We ship the same or the next working day - always. We never advertize what we don't have in stock. As to our "worthless" business: We're scheduled for a 2 million dollar turnover, in 2018. We've been in business for ten years, served 150,000 customers and have never advertized.


Posted over 6 years ago by 141.101.X.X Report as SPAM

Your name is Frank De Groot. Just google Owndoc scam and you can see that this guys whole business is a scam. Located outside of the continental united states so not easy to shut down. He has websites dedicated to him from customers he put smear campaigns against. He posts personal information all over the internet. Home addresses, full names, phone numbers. He pretends to go by the name Sarah. I stumbled upon his website while browsing and was blown away at what he has been able to get away with.
DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH OWNDOC!!!!!!! Sarah is not a real person. The owners name is Frank De Groot. He buys skincare products from Alibaba and pretends to be the manufacturer.
Google owndoc scam and prepare to be blown away.


Posted over 6 years ago by 172.68.X.X Report as SPAM

Let us know where on Ali Baba one can buy a Derminator device r C60 in olive oil. We do publicly blacklist criminals on our site, such as people who stole from us - people such as yourself. We understand you want to revenge but you really have to get more creative than that. If you continue, we'll redouble our efforts to expose ALL criminals exposed on our site. We'll simply blacklist them two or three times more, on different places. Then we're certain to have included you as well.


Posted over 6 years ago by 141.101.X.X Report as SPAM

We're pretty sure you're want of the last dozen thieves, libelers and blackmailers we blacklisted, so we'll work our way down.


Posted over 6 years ago by 141.101.X.X Report as SPAM

"Not easy to shut down" lol. It helps that we've been in business since 2006, have served 150,000 customers, enjoy a turnover of 2 million dollars/year and have a stellar reputation with our non-thieving customers, never having advertised a single time in a decade.


Posted over 6 years ago by 141.101.X.X Report as SPAM

DO NOT PURCHASE OR DO ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES ACCEPTING THIS COMPANIES TERMS OF SERVICE.


Posted over 6 years ago by 172.68.X.X Report as SPAM

https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/fullerene-c60.html

Here is where this company 'manufactures' their goods from.

We've been watching you Frank.


Posted over 6 years ago by 172.68.X.X Report as SPAM

We source our C60 from Solaris in Canada. The photographs are on our site. Dozens of their bottles ($ 24,000 worth of their product), photographed with our own C60-EVOO product. Ask Solaris if you still have doubts. You really have to get better at defamation.


Posted over 6 years ago by 141.101.X.X Report as SPAM

We already know where your products come from. They ship from mainland China. You never touch them. They are drop shipped to customers who you then blackmail to keep their mouth shut about your shady business practices. There is no Sarah. It is only you Frank. And we see you.


Posted over 6 years ago by 172.68.X.X Report as SPAM

Every single one of our 150,000+ customers can testify that the shipments we send them have a postage stamp from Europe (Czech Republic) so you really have to come with more credible lies than that. We have never dropshipped anything from China in our entire ten-year existence.


Posted over 6 years ago by 141.101.X.X Report as SPAM

https://badbuyerlist.org/buyer/1929d2974839ecd10558

Here is Frank calling an unhappy customer a pedophile while posting links to complaints he made himself about the customer.

Franky, we don't care about your company. We are coming for you.


Posted over 6 years ago by 172.68.X.X Report as SPAM

This is the second murder threat you made in the span of 24 hours, Ann M Venesky / Rachelle Peterson. I remind you that making murder threats is a prisonable offense in your jurisdiction, and that your IP address is being preserved as evidence.


Posted over 6 years ago by 141.101.X.X Report as SPAM

Oh Frank. You are beginning to sound paranoid. We don't see the word murder anywhere on any of your multiple posts on this site or elsewhere.

Are you paranoid Frank?
Talk to you soon.


Posted over 6 years ago by 172.68.X.X Report as SPAM

We have now established without doubt that the criminal making murder threats and spreading criminal libel is Rachelle Peterson: RACHELLE PETERSON, 9630 INDEPENDENCE CIR, UNIT 101, CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317, USA. E-mail: rachellea.peterson@gmail.com Phone number: 9523344900. Details can be found on this offender blakclist: http://shop.owndoc.com/cmspage.php?page_id=18


Posted over 6 years ago by 141.101.X.X Report as SPAM

Ironically, Rachelle Peterson also claimed to PayPal, our payment processor, that WE made murder threats to HER but PayPal did not take her seriously. Now she ressorted to making public murder threats to US. She confirmed her identity a few hours ago in an email to us, that she indeed is behing these threats of assassination. Since they are concrete threats of murder and since they are made against a named, identified individual, we can secure a local conviction and have it enforced in the US. Recently a US criminal was extradited to our country and committed suicide in our jail: https://brnodaily.cz/2018/01/12/breaking-news/u-s-four-time-killer-commits-suicide-in-czech-prison/


Posted over 6 years ago by 141.101.X.X Report as SPAM

Everybody in this thread needs to stop trying to practice law. Neither of you know a thing about it.

To Frank/Sarah/Owndoc:

I suspect an actual attorney has told you you have no legal recourse against your customers, and that's why you're so steamed.

To whoever is against Frank:

With regard to your point by point assessment: 3, 4 and 6 are total BS. 3 and 4 are just outright fictional, and you agree to 6 when you enter into a transaction - to an extent, you can't waive legal rights or remedies.


Posted over 6 years ago by 172.69.X.X Report as SPAM

Sarah here. Our company retains a "house attorney" in Prague and she assured us several times that Czech court orders are enforceable in the entire Western world, including the US, and that, specifically for the US, US residents have no appeals or delays available in US courts (at least in civil cases where US law agrees with Czech law) but a Czech court order will be enforced without delay via a US bailiff, assisted by local Police, if necessary. That means we can obtain a judgment here, the US resident must represent themselves here and if they don't we win by default. And we can garnish the scammer's wages, valuables, place liens on their bank accounts - anything a Czech Court considers appropriate.


Posted over 6 years ago by 141.101.X.X Report as SPAM

I add that the same goes in the US. If we lose a case in the US, US judgments are enforceable here. It's reciprocality by treaty.


Posted over 6 years ago by 141.101.X.X Report as SPAM

And of course, murder threats etc. are dealt with by cooperation with our Police and the Police of the jurisdiction from which the threats were made. We would submit evidence with our Police complaint and our Police decides whether they will refer the case to local authorities. When murder threats are made in connection to how we respond to fraud, as is the case here, and when murder threats are made repeatedly over a longer period, and when there is reasonable cause for alarm, the likelihood is great that the case will be accepted and followed-up on.


Posted over 6 years ago by 141.101.X.X Report as SPAM

You cannot bring suit against an American in Czech court for something that didn't happen in the Czech Republic, this includes retail purchases.

Your "house attorney" doesn't exist. No attorney would tell you a Czech legal order means anything outside of the Czech Republic. For one thing, you're not going to get an extradition order on a civil case. For another, a fundamental principle of law is that the plaintiff must file their suit in the court that has jurisdiction over the defendant.

Tell your "house attorney" that she's garbage. Do they just hand out legal degrees if you get two numbers in the Czech Powerball or something?


Posted over 5 years ago by 162.158.X.X Report as SPAM

Now, allow me to address your criminal claims...

Whatever police hold jurisdiction in the United States, they're going to wad up an order from the Czech Republic and chuck it in the trash. You can't even be extradited to another state for a misdemeanor, let alone another country. You could try contacting the Department of State, but, they're not going to get involved over nonsense... but, they might take the step of preemptively banning you from the embassy in Prague.


Posted over 5 years ago by 162.158.X.X Report as SPAM

There is no reciprocity in civil case. You either sue here, or you don't sue.

Take for example, the civil case between World Wrestling Entertainment and the World Wildlife Fund. While the case was tried in the UK, the ruling (granting the wildlife fund trademark of "WWF") only actually applied in the UK. WWE voluntarily chose to switch to the WWE brand globally - a change they were migrating to anyway. UK law can never and will never apply to American citizens or corporations - neither will Czech law. Conversely, American courts cannot issue binding rulings on things in the Czech Republic. If we could, Budweiser would have destroyed your beer industry 70 years ago.

There are many reasons for this, but chief amongst them would be lack of constitutional protections overseas, burden of travel, and the fact that Czech citizens are not "peers" of Americans, and therefore, incapable of serving on a jury in a case involving an American.


Posted over 5 years ago by 162.158.X.X Report as SPAM

Wrong, wrong, wrong!

You may have some rudimentary knowledge of a little law, but you're obviously clueless as to the reality on the ground, since we paid top attorneys in Prague to present us with the details in this matter. They provided us with a list of Americans who were extradited to Czechia for various offenses (one recently died in jail here - I think he got murdered...) and they emphatically assured me that they would speedily get any Czech civil court order enforced in any US state via US authorities. And if you'd rrefuse to open your door to a US court agent, he'd come back with a locksmith and the Police. And if you'd resist your own Police, they will use force to make you comply. Your wages will be garnished and your assets confiscated to pay what you owe.


Posted over 5 years ago by 172.68.X.X Report as SPAM

Anything that affects a Czech resident (including a Czech company) and that is a prisonable offense here (such as defamation with intent to cause financial damage, threats of murder etc.) is an offense for which the US must and will extradite their citizens and residents.

Furthermore, any civil dispute for which a Czech court issues a verdict is immediately and without possible appeal to be enforced in the US as per treaty.


Posted over 5 years ago by 172.68.X.X Report as SPAM
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